Andrew Sullivan at the Athenaeum
Popular blogger offers strong emotion but flawed arguments about torture
Bryce Gerard
Andrew Sullivan, popular blogger and author, came to speak at the Athenaeum on January 29. Sullivan, who maintains he’s still a conservative, wasted no time getting into the meat of his speech: the Bush presidency. He began by summing up how he viewed, “in a sense,” the Bush administration’s legacy. He talked about how Bush’s career as a president pre 9-11 contrasted with his career as a president post 9-11.
He, like Christopher Hitchens who spoke at
As he put it, this is a war the president was going to fight.” Sullivan seemed infuriated that the president would usurp such power away from Congress, ignoring the fact that, at any time, Congress could have reasserted their power by cutting off funding for the war. Yet Sullivan noted that even he had supported the president during these times, believing such drastic measures to be necessary in order to defeat the amorphous enemy. Yet he asserted that the turning point came when “Dick Cheney took over the Executive Branch,” and said that Bush forgot that he swore an oath to “defend the Constitution, not territory of the
Here is where the wheels started to come off. Had Sullivan read the Constitution’s preamble, he would have noticed that it was ordained to provide for the “common defense.” And just who would be overseeing that duty? Why, Article 2 of the Constitution says that the President “shall be Commander in Chief.” Sullivan never answered the question he all but proposed. What good is the Constitution if there is no territory to put it into effect?
Sullivan further went on to distinguish the repressive acts of the Bush administration from those committed, by previous presidents, such as Abraham Lincoln and the suspension of habeas corpus, by saying that the previous American wars had well defined, finite enemies, and that once these enemies were defeated, “constitutional order,” as Sullivan put it, could be “restored.” (Indeed he called the election of Obama as something of that kind of “restoration.”) This current case, he said was different, because this war is not being fought against countries, but rather against, fractured, nebulous, but nevertheless dangerous enemies, who could never surrender en masse as say, the Confederate South did. Therefore, the logical conclusion is that this if the war has no defined end, the suspension of certain civil liberties like habeas corpus would likewise continue indefinitely. Sullivan seemed to indicate that this was unacceptable. Yet he disappointed by not following his logic to its end. Just because the idea of fighting an unending war is unpalatable, doesn’t mean it is unnecessary. The Constitution says nothing about wars having an expiration date.
Sullivan’s second major problem with the Bush administration was its use of torture. He spoke at length about practices used at
Why does he then not accept the death and torture of Iraqi soldiers, who are much less likely to be innocent? Sullivan’s view of torture would seem self-serving, dodging as it does the question of efficacy altogether. While claiming on the one hand that torture doesn’t work because it leads to false confessions, he suggests, incredulously, that it is widespread. But why would it be so widespread if it were so ineffective? Unlike the Nazis, who used the torture for sham trials, Americans use it to get actionable intelligence to save the lives of civilians, American and foreign.
Sullivan suggested that there could be another way and pointed to Sir Winston Churchill, who despite “nearly a 9/11 a day” never detained a citizen indefinitely and that no Nazi was ever tortured by the British. But here, too, Sullivan is wrong. Churchill’s government has its own secret prison, dubbed “The London Cage,” where Nazis were tortured.
Not all of Sullivan’s talk dealt with the foreign policy of the Bush Administration. At one point after the talk, a student asked him what he thought about the fact that gay rights had taken such a giant leap back in
He even further went on to suggest that the gay rights movement itself was to blame for the setbacks caused by the success of measures like prop 8 by refusing to use the word “gay” in its materials. He stated that it was ridiculous to expect people to go against something that they’ve been indoctrinated with since they were children, and that it was necessary for the gay rights movement to “please chill a little.”
To the greater audience, what was most compelling about Sullivan’s talk was the emotion that he showed when discussing the issue of torture. Yet ultimately, it was this reliance on emotion that seems to impair Sullivan’s judgement the most. He regretted that the emotional impact of 9-11 caused him to place too much trust and faith in the president to prosecute the war, yet now that it is easier to take American security for granted, he is once again falling into the same trap, feeling guilty about the sacrifices that are necessary to obtain this security.
Now that President Bush has done what Sullivan even acknowledges may have been necessary to protect
Bryce Gerard CMC ‘11 is a staff writer for the

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Lucas
posted 5/10/10 @ 8:40 AM PST
It seems most of the counterpoints against Sullivan are based on his examples and comparisons rather than his concepts and idea's. This is not a very convincing article. (Continued…)
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